>> yeah with paul ryan sort of thrown in there as well. >> bill: and rand paul and marco rubio are saying different things about where the party is today and where it has got to go, right? >> yes, rubio has stood on the side of mccain, lindsey graham, that you might tie back to the bush era whereas rand paul is very much his father's son and has the non-interventionist, but pull everything back and worry about our own business mentality. >> bill: and also at cpac last weekend rand paul saying that the party looked moss covered, right? pardon me. and he followed marco rubio to the podium who flat out stated we don't need any new ideas. we don't need any new ideas, we just have to package them better. >> yeah, that's the big debate whether or not they need to change their position or just market themselves better and not have mitt romney out there making comments about the 47%. and it gets back to the idea that people say the republican party rests on those three legs of economic conservatism social conservatism and a strong foreign policy. rand paul says a lot of these things should be lef